Brett Deister chats it up with Mark, a photography whiz who’s been capturing the essence of industrial brands like a pro. The duo dives straight into the nitty-gritty of how killer visuals can totally boost your B2B marketing game. Mark’s got the lowdown on why custom images are the real deal—stock photos just ain’t cutting it in a world where authenticity reigns supreme. He spills the beans on everything from lighting magic to macro shots that make even the shiniest machine parts look like a million bucks. Plus, they tackle the whole AI thing, discussing how it’s not about replacing the human touch but enhancing it in this wild digital age. So, buckle up for some solid insights that’ll have you rethinking your content strategy in no time!
Brett Deister welcomes Mark Mendoza to the latest installment of Digital Coffee Marketing Brew, where the conversation morphs into a treasure trove of insights on industrial photography and its pivotal role in content marketing. Mark's journey from film photography to owning a commercial studio is peppered with anecdotes that reveal the heart of his craft: creating images that resonate with audiences while showcasing the uniqueness of industrial brands. They share a few laughs over coffee preferences, but quickly pivot to the serious business of visual storytelling. Mark articulates the delicate balance between aesthetics and technicality, explaining how the right imagery can demystify complex products and enhance customer understanding. Key to their discussion is the importance of custom visuals over stock photography, with Mark making a strong case for how authentic images improve brand trust and engagement. The episode also delves into the practicalities of planning a photoshoot, emphasizing the need for collaboration between the photographer and the client to achieve optimal results. Listeners gain valuable insights on the common mistakes brands make in their visual strategies and how to circumvent them. With a mix of expert advice and a friendly vibe, the episode leaves a lasting impression, encouraging marketers to rethink their approach to imagery and embrace the power of authentic photography in their marketing arsenal.
Takeaways:
- The podcast dives deep into how visual content can boost B2B marketing, emphasizing the need for authentic imagery over stock photos to build trust with potential clients.
- Mark shares his journey from film photography to industrial shoots, highlighting how his expertise in lighting and composition elevates the storytelling element of technical brands.
- Planning is key when it comes to product photography; having a shot list can make all the difference in capturing the right imagery for marketing campaigns.
- Brett and Mark discuss the balance between AI tools and traditional photography techniques, noting that while AI is helpful, nothing beats the authenticity of a well-captured photo.
- Mark stresses the importance of creating an image bank that can serve multiple marketing needs over time, providing ongoing value beyond a single event or campaign.
- The conversation touches on emerging trends in photography, especially how combining AI with traditional shooting methods can create stunning visuals that resonate with audiences.
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Companies mentioned in this episode:
- FLIR Systems
- Accutronics
- Mark Mendoza Photography
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Speaker AThat's good.
Speaker AAnd welcome to a new episode of Digital Coffee Marketing Brew.
Speaker AAnd I'm your host, Brett Dice.
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Speaker AWe're gonna be talking mostly about content and photography and all that other fun stuff that we all gotta at least know a little bit to take our iPhone videos or pictures with because sometimes that's all we got.
Speaker ABut with me is Mark and he is a photographer and owner of his own studio in Littleton.
Speaker AAnd Mark spent several years as an in house photographer for FLIR Systems, traveling coast to shoot everything from molten steel mills to remote gas fields, often in extreme condition.
Speaker AToday, Mark partners with manufacturing industrial brands to craft high impact imagery that's at the heart of any successful content marketing strategy.
Speaker ASo welcome to the show, Mark.
Speaker BThanks Brett.
Speaker BGreat to be here.
Speaker BAppreciate it.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AAnd the first question is all my guest is, are you a coffee or tea drinker?
Speaker BI'm definitely a coffee drinker, Big coffee drinker.
Speaker BI like coffee in the morning and in the afternoon if I have the time.
Speaker BLike a good Cuban coffee which I don't know if you've ever had, but they're creamy and delicious.
Speaker BSo if you've never had one, I highly recommend.
Speaker ANo, I haven't had the opportunity.
Speaker AI have had more like Spanish ones like the cortado, which is basically like a six ounce cup with half of actually truly half of it espresso and half of it melt.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BThis is a little more like an espresso, but sweet and foamy basically.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo it's almost like a cappuccino in some ways, but not exactly like a cappuccino.
Speaker ALike the foam part of it.
Speaker BYeah, except there's no milk in it.
Speaker AAh.
Speaker BSo you just take some sugar and you put in a few drops of the espresso and you just whip it up and it becomes a foam, but it's not actually milk.
Speaker ANice.
Speaker ASo it's really all coffee based?
Speaker BIt is very coffee based, yes, for sure.
Speaker BAnd very sweet, but very delicious.
Speaker ANice.
Speaker AOkay, I gave brief some of your expertise.
Speaker ACan you give our listeners a little bit more about what you do?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I'm a commercial photographer.
Speaker BI'm based here in Littleton, Massachusetts and I work with industrial and manufacturing clients mostly to get them the product or product lifestyle photos that they need for their content marketing.
Speaker BAnd that could be anything from hero product shots to go on the website or Catalogs or what have you, or E Commerce to on site facility shots showcasing their facilities, their people, their machines, all these things that they've invested so much money and time into.
Speaker BAnd it really helps to lend credibility to them with the customer.
Speaker ANice.
Speaker AAnd so with your background in film and digital photography, how do these two mediums uniquely contribute to crafting compelling visual stories for industrial brands in B2B marketing?
Speaker BYeah, I used to work in the film industry back in the day and I learned a lot about lighting and composition.
Speaker BAnd when I left that industry, I transitioned into graphic design.
Speaker BBut little did I know the company that I started working for had a nascent digital studio back when digital photography, this was about 2000, back when digital photography was just figuring its way around.
Speaker BAnd I took that over, made it my own.
Speaker BThe company was acquired.
Speaker BI ended up with a big studio up in Nashua, New Hampshire.
Speaker BAnd over time, they just started sending me all over the country to capture all kinds of scenes of their product, which was thermal imaging cameras, their products in use all over the country.
Speaker BSo it really was an exciting and interesting time.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BBut yeah, definitely the background in film lighting helped a lot in that arena.
Speaker BAnd now I'm on my own for the past eight years with Mark Mendoza Photography, basically parlaying what I learned over at FLIR to my current client list.
Speaker AGot you.
Speaker AAnd so usually industrial brands have a lot of complex and technical products.
Speaker AHow to use photography to make these subjects visually appealing and relatable to potential clients.
Speaker BYeah, it's so important to get the right imagery.
Speaker BA lot of manufacturing clients rely on trust and precision.
Speaker BSo it's important to show your product in use your machinery, your facilities, your people.
Speaker BThere is a place for stock imagery, but you can't rely solely on stock imagery.
Speaker BYou need authentic custom images to engender trust in your brand.
Speaker BAnd so that's what I do for customers.
Speaker BAnd I don't know if that answers your question or if I miss anything there.
Speaker ANo, you're good.
Speaker AIt was just basically, how do you figure out how to create the images with all the technical stuff that goes in with industrial brands?
Speaker ABecause a lot of times B2B have, like, very technical things that they have to get across.
Speaker ASo how do you do that?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AThose types of like, hero shots where it's, oh, I get it now.
Speaker ABecause a lot of people are like, I'm looking at something, I have no idea what this is.
Speaker BYeah, exactly.
Speaker BWe do a lot of macro photography to show really up close some of the parts that a manufacturer may produce.
Speaker BThey like to show samples of what they can do.
Speaker BAnd sometimes that involves a lot of detail shots using macro lenses.
Speaker BThere can be a lot of reflections because it tends to be shiny parts with a lot of reflections.
Speaker BAnd so we specialized softboxes get very soft, precise lighting to really showcase so people understand what it is exactly that this manufacturer has done and what their capabilities are.
Speaker AAnd so in your experience, what are some of the common mistakes industrial brands make when incorporating visual content into their marketing?
Speaker AAnd how can professional photography help avoid these pitfalls?
Speaker BSo much of it comes down to planning.
Speaker BIf we're going to do a photo shoot as the customer.
Speaker BI know you have so many things to do and you want to unload this project onto a photographer, but you're still going to have to do your homework.
Speaker BYou're still going to have to let the photographer know exactly what it is you're looking for.
Speaker BAnd that usually means coming up with a shot list, even if it's a general idea of a shot list and how the day is going to go.
Speaker BHere are the top machines that we want to show.
Speaker BThey're brand new 5 axis machines and we really want the client to understand that this is something that we have.
Speaker BSo that would be an example.
Speaker BGive me a list in terms of priority so that we can just go down the list and if we happen to not get to the very last one because we run out of time, it's not as big a deal.
Speaker BPre production and planning really makes all the difference.
Speaker BAnd if we've both done our homework, then I just come onto the scene and it's just execution and we get it all done for them.
Speaker AAnd B2B marketing often prioritizes data over atheistic.
Speaker AHow do you convince industrial clients of the RAO that high quality imagery can bring to their content strategies?
Speaker BYeah, I can point to other clients like before and after images of their website and they will tell me their sales have gone up, their SEO has taken a big boost.
Speaker BBecause that's another thing.
Speaker BWhen you upload to your site new images, Google loves that.
Speaker BNew custom images.
Speaker BNot stock images, custom images.
Speaker BGoogle takes note of that.
Speaker BAnd that's the boost for your.
Speaker BSo that right there is a great return on investment.
Speaker BBut I recently did a job for a company called Accutronics over in Chelmsford and we showcased every one of their services.
Speaker BThey produce boards.
Speaker BWhat do you call the board?
Speaker BLittle boards, Micro boards.
Speaker BThat's not the right term, but anyway.
Speaker BAnd we captured every aspect of the services that they offer as well as samples of their products.
Speaker BSo the Potential customer really gets insight into what they can expect.
Speaker BSo I often will send potential customers samples of some of the new websites that my clients have done.
Speaker BAnd it really gives them a sense of the power of visual content marketing.
Speaker AAnd with the rise of AI, how do you ensure that you still stay relevant and assure your clients that you are still the best option?
Speaker AEven though people could create their own AI model to craft or try to craft B2B?
Speaker AI don't think B2B is there yet with AI, but I feel like it's encroaching a little bit each time.
Speaker BYeah, we certainly hear about it every day, but at the end of the day, your facilities are your facilities.
Speaker BThey're one of a kind.
Speaker BYour products are your products, and they are one of a kind.
Speaker BAnd you need to have them properly photographed.
Speaker BThere are other things that are more generic that may lend themselves to being produced by AI.
Speaker BThere could be situations if I'm shooting a product and you need a particular background, let's say it's not the manufacturing floor.
Speaker BAt some other background, we could create an AI image background that the client is happy with, that they approve, and then we'll go ahead and in the studio, we'll take a picture of whatever the foreground happens to be a person, a piece of equipment, whatever it is, and combine those two.
Speaker BSo AI actually really helps me in my day to day, and it hasn't replaced me so far.
Speaker AAnd so what role do you think authenticity plays in B2B imagery, especially for industrial sectors?
Speaker AAnd how do you achieve that through your work?
Speaker BLike, again, authenticity plays a big role.
Speaker BIt engenders trust in what you do.
Speaker BPeople can look at it and see that you're for real, that you're not a fly by night.
Speaker BWhat you offer is something genuine and that is of great value.
Speaker BGoogle agrees with that.
Speaker BGoogle will reward authentic imagery over stock imagery every time.
Speaker BAnd you will get a boost in your SEO.
Speaker BI just try to capture authentic scenes.
Speaker BThere's no fakery.
Speaker BWe go on site, we bring lighting and anything we need, and we direct the employees, do this, do that, look this way, look that way, and the end result is 100% authentic.
Speaker BAnd that's what the clients really come to me for.
Speaker ASo looking at emerging trends, how do you see photography evolving in the B2B space?
Speaker AYou know, we talked a little bit about AI, but what other evolving things like what tools do you use specifically to.
Speaker ATo help create that authentic image that you may not be able to do?
Speaker AWhat trends do you see and what tools do you like to use?
Speaker BYeah, it's definitely AI.
Speaker BA lot of what we might have done in the past, you've heard of the process of green screen.
Speaker BAI kicks that up a notch.
Speaker BSo as long as you understand what it is you're looking for, you can create these kind of virtual worlds into which you can put whatever object it is.
Speaker BAnd again, it's usually a two step process of getting that background the way you want it and then compositing that with an in studio shot of the product of the person of whatever it is.
Speaker BThat's really the very neat thing that's happening right now.
Speaker BAnd again, I don't see AI replacing me as much as I see it being a very useful tool in a lot of instances.
Speaker ASo do you see like the virtual green screens getting better?
Speaker ACause I've tried a few of them and they still don't do as good of a job with the human.
Speaker AIf you move to around like the head, they miss it.
Speaker AAnd you can see that it's a virtual green screen.
Speaker AOr do you still use traditional, like actual green screen?
Speaker BNo, I can use a quote unquote green screen, which is actually something they use in video.
Speaker BBut it's similar in photography.
Speaker BBut no, I haven't had any issues with it.
Speaker BA composite's a composite.
Speaker BThe key to it is you can't just grab any.
Speaker BLike in the past you would go and you would look through stock photography, say, oh, I like this piece of stock.
Speaker BLet me try to combine it now with this foreground.
Speaker BNow you don't even have to do that.
Speaker BYou can create anything that you can imagine.
Speaker BYou can create an AI and then you can place your subject right into that scene seamlessly.
Speaker BAnd that is the very impressive thing that's happening right now.
Speaker BAnd I definitely let clients know about it.
Speaker BBecause you can't always go to whatever location you want.
Speaker BIt's not available, It's a lot of money.
Speaker BIt's this.
Speaker BAnd that's a really great tool to help the client get what they need.
Speaker AAnd for industrial marketers listening who might not have a big budget for photography, what are some practical tips for starting points to leverage imagery effectively in their content?
Speaker BHere's the thing.
Speaker BIf you hire me or any photographer to come to your site and to shoot all day, sometimes I see clients kind of looking at what's right in front of them.
Speaker BLike for instance, I have a trade show coming up and I need trade show graphics.
Speaker BOkay, that's great.
Speaker BBut if I come and spend the day with you, I can get you content that's gonna last you a long time.
Speaker BNot just for your trade show, but for your website, for social media.
Speaker BYou're gonna use these shots over and over again and there's gonna be a wide variety of them.
Speaker BSo you wanna create an image bank that's going to last you a while.
Speaker BSo if you break it down that way and you're getting content for a year or whatever it is.
Speaker BI've seen clients use content for years.
Speaker BIt's really a bargain actually.
Speaker BIt's something that you can use over and over again.
Speaker BDifferent variations across different platforms.
Speaker BAnd so it really is a bargain when you think about it that way.
Speaker BYou kind of have to think a little bit bigger picture when it comes to your content marketing.
Speaker ASo what I think I'm hearing is that look for the evergreen instead of the in the moment type of a thing.
Speaker ABecause the evergreen will last you longer than the basically right in the moment type of things.
Speaker AThose are great for one offs, but evergreen is the better one.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BI think you should make the most of our time together as you can.
Speaker BAnd that goes back now to the pre planning and the pre production.
Speaker BThink about all the uses you're going to have for the next year or two years or three years and let's see how much of that we can capture in this one day of shooting.
Speaker BAnd you'll be a hero in your marketing department.
Speaker BIf you can pull that off and come away with all this content, then.
Speaker AHow do some marketers pre plan for this?
Speaker ACause maybe a lot of them don't know how to do like photography shoots or to figure that part out.
Speaker AHow would they start that process?
Speaker BYeah, I think it's not just me.
Speaker BObviously they're gonna be taking pictures with their iPhones in certain situations and stuff and that's fine.
Speaker BOther instances where you might have to use stock imagery and that's fine.
Speaker BSo you do have to combine and use all your resources out there.
Speaker BMy point is simply that you do need to look at the bigger picture when it comes to hiring a photographer and realizing that you're gonna get much more out of it than perhaps you initially thought.
Speaker BSo just bigger picture thinking.
Speaker BI think we'll get you far.
Speaker ANice.
Speaker AAnd people listening this episode, they're wondering where can they find you online?
Speaker ATo learn more about you, I'm available.
Speaker BAvailable at Mark Mendoza, photo.com.
Speaker Byou can also find me on LinkedIn.
Speaker BI'm on LinkedIn quite a bit.
Speaker AAll right, Any final thoughts for our listeners?
Speaker BNo, just everyone have a great day.
Speaker BIt was great talking to you and everybody work on your image content and if you need help, give me a ring.
Speaker BHappy to help.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AThank you Mark for joining Digital Coffee Marketing Brewing, sharing your knowledge on photography.
Speaker BAll right, Brett, thank you very much.
Speaker AAppreciate it and thank you for listening.
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