Brett Deister and PR whiz Mickey Kennedy kick things off by diving straight into the nitty-gritty of press release marketing, highlighting its crucial role in boosting visibility and credibility for small businesses. Mickey, with a whopping 25 years in the game, spills the tea on how earned media can be a game-changer, especially for startups looking to make a mark without breaking the bank. He emphasizes the power of storytelling and strategic content—turning press releases into a goldmine of opportunities, not just a one-and-done deal. Mickey's insights reveal that the secret sauce lies in crafting relatable narratives that resonate with journalists and audiences alike. This episode is packed with practical tips and tricks that'll have entrepreneurs eager to leverage press releases like pros, ultimately transforming their PR game from zero to hero.
Takeaways:
- Mickey emphasizes that regardless of size, small businesses can snag earned media, catching journalists' attention by focusing on unique stories rather than just corporate achievements.
- He highlights the importance of storytelling in press releases, stating that a compelling narrative can greatly increase media coverage and help businesses stand out in a crowded market.
- Mickey suggests leveraging press releases as ongoing marketing tools by sharing earned media across social media and websites, transforming them into assets that enhance credibility and visibility.
- The episode discusses how small businesses should focus on strategic press releases, aiming for quality over quantity, and ideally producing six to eight per campaign for effective PR efforts.
- Mickey insists on the necessity of understanding what journalists seek: engaging narratives that resonate with their audience, which is crucial for successful press release marketing.
- Lastly, he notes that small businesses shouldn't shy away from PR, as their fresh perspectives and stories can often be more appealing to journalists than established corporations.
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Microsoft
- E Releases
- PR Newswire
- Business Wire
Links referenced in this episode:
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Speaker BThey called it a brag book.
Speaker BThey had 30 clippings they take into people's homes when they give a quote and they're like, hey, we probably won't come in the cheapest, but you're not going to have to take all your furniture out of the room in three years and have the carpet restretched because we do it right.
Speaker BThe truth is we don't care about corporations, we don't care about Microsoft or Google, but we care about the people behind it.
Speaker BIt usually results in 8 to 14 articles every single time.
Speaker BBut I guarantee you that day was a record day for sales because it drove a lot of people to open a browser and do a search for you and find you and want to do business with you.
Speaker BWe have some people who get an article and it results in a $70,000 a week for them.
Speaker AMm, that's good.
Speaker AAnd welcome to a new episode of the Digital Coffee Marketing Brew.
Speaker AAnd I'm your host, Brett Dyster.
Speaker AAnd if you please subscribe to this podcast and all your favorite podcasting apps and leave a review, it really does help.
Speaker ABut this week we're going to be talking about press release marketing.
Speaker AI'm a PR person or I got a degree in pr, so I know the press release stuff, but I've never heard about this press release marketing.
Speaker ASo I'm actually excited to hear what this is all about.
Speaker ABut with me is Mickey, and he is an expert in helping small business owners, businesses, authors and startups increase their visibility and credibility through the tier one press release distribution.
Speaker AMickey founded an e release company 25 years ago after realizing that small businesses desperately needed a press release service they can actually afford, giving them access to the media and to Nation Newswire, all with a personal touch.
Speaker ABut welcome to the show, Mickey.
Speaker BOh, thanks for having me.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AThe first question is all my guest is, are you a coffee or tea drinker?
Speaker BCoffee.
Speaker ACoffee.
Speaker AAnything specific or you just want it?
Speaker AWhatever, just give it to me.
Speaker BYeah, I like cream, but no frills, no flavors, or, I don't know, tian blends or anything like that.
Speaker BI'm fine with just regular coffee.
Speaker AJust not a coffee snob at all.
Speaker AJust give it to me with some sugar.
Speaker BYeah, exactly.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AAnd I gave a brief summary of your expertise.
Speaker ACan you give our listeners a little bit more about what you do?
Speaker BI started ereleases a little over 25 years ago.
Speaker BLargely I saw at the place I was working at, I was doing press releases and faxing and all of a sudden journalists started calling and Saying, could you just email in the future?
Speaker BAnd so I was just like, whoa, email is something that you could do and scale.
Speaker BSo I reached out to journalists for about a year and compiled a list of about 10,000 journalists and launched in October of 1998.
Speaker BAnd I was just a matchmaker sending press releases to these journalists.
Speaker BAnd the journalists loved it.
Speaker BAnd the market has certainly changed because their inboxes now are just, they're tox.
Speaker BFortunately, A little over 10 years ago, PR Newswire reached out to us and said they liked what we were doing and they wanted to find a way in which maybe they could offer a distribution that all of my releases would go over.
Speaker BAnd they had suggested a city or state distribution for each.
Speaker BAnd I was just like, no, my customers are looking for a national distribution and I wouldn't feel comfortable giving them a city or state newswire distribution.
Speaker BWe played a dance back and forth.
Speaker BI know that they charged $1,600 to move a 600 word press release.
Speaker BI was charging my clients, I think $299 at the time, so I didn't think much would come of it.
Speaker BBut I think the big breakthrough was when I was visiting them, they had mentioned they had their editorial team there 24 hours a day.
Speaker BAnd they said that overnight they had to be there in case there was breaking news or a recall or they needed to get something to the Asian markets so they needed to coordinate with their Asian counterparts.
Speaker BAnd they just said that they just sit there.
Speaker BAnd so I was just like, hey, I could schedule all of my releases for next business day by default.
Speaker BAnd therefore you could set them up overnight and wouldn't cost you any additional labor.
Speaker BAnd I think when they started to think about that, they're just like, yeah, we can somehow make this work.
Speaker BAnd so today, and since then, all the releases that go out through ereleases go out nationally over PR Newswire and you don't have to pay $1,600.
Speaker BIt's probably like a third of the price of what you would pay there.
Speaker BThe caveat is that you can't be a publicly traded company or some stinking large corpor.
Speaker BIf someone comes to us like that, we, you know, just hand them off to someone.
Speaker BAt PR Newswire, we're really there to help the small businesses, entrepreneurs, authors, small startups and people like that.
Speaker BIt's been a very beneficial relationship.
Speaker BAnd I do realize that sometimes customers grow and graduate and they want more services than we offer.
Speaker BAnd so again, I pass them along to Peer Newswire directly.
Speaker BIt is A rewarding experience.
Speaker BAnd it's very fortunate because, like I said, if I was still sitting by email as the bulk of what I did, it would be very hard to get through.
Speaker BBecause what has happened in the 25 years since I launched is media databases.
Speaker BThey're not cheap.
Speaker BThey're usually 10,000 to $25,000 a year.
Speaker BAnd if you have a golf club business and you subscribe to the database and you're paying 20 grand a year, you might look at it and say, there's half a million journalists in here, but there's only like 2,500 that are interested in golf news.
Speaker BAnd then they start talking themselves into.
Speaker BWe could send it to the banking and business people.
Speaker BBanking and business people play golf.
Speaker BBut the truth is, a financial analyst is never going to write an article about golf clubs.
Speaker BAnd so all of these press releases start to go off target.
Speaker BAnd it's like that in every industry.
Speaker BYou have a consumer electronic, and the next thing you know, you're sending the people who cover audio products and stereo, and you just justify it because just like this thing's so expensive and our.
Speaker BWho we need to send to is so small, and there's no downside.
Speaker BYou know, it's not like you're gonna get punished for sending stuff off target.
Speaker BAt most they'll unsubscribe from you.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd the way that works is they don't unsubscribe from the entire database platform.
Speaker BIt's just your use of the platform.
Speaker BThis audio company hits the unsubscribe button and.
Speaker BAnd that's it.
Speaker BIt's a terrible situation where journalists are just.
Speaker BTheir inboxes are no longer useful to them.
Speaker BIt's hard for PR firms to get through because of that.
Speaker BSo most PR firms are again picking up the phone and saying, hey, I sent you a pitch.
Speaker BI don't know if you had a chance to look at it.
Speaker BAnd then they're like, doing a search, probably in their spam, to try and find it.
Speaker BSo it is difficult to reach journalists.
Speaker BAnd the great thing about a newswire is it is a place where they log in and they look at their industry feed, which they can customize, depending on the wire, to exclude stuff I might cover.
Speaker BLet's just pick a fashion industry, but I'm not interested in Ready to Wear or things that are at Target or JCPenney or things like that.
Speaker BSo I can just set exclusions for certain company brands or a certain language so that I'm looking at a feed that's pretty tailored to My beat.
Speaker BAnd that's why the newswire is set so good.
Speaker BBecause unlike their inbox, which is filled with so much stuff that doesn't relate to them, this is very clean and pure.
Speaker BAnd the newswire does a really good job of ensuring that people aren't sending stuff to off target industries.
Speaker BIt has to be appropriate.
Speaker BAnd in the US there's two newswires that pretty much control the market.
Speaker BI would say like 95% of releases go through there.
Speaker BIt's been a duopoly for a really long time and probably will continue to be.
Speaker BIt's Business Wire and PR Newswire with PR Newswire being the oldest and largest.
Speaker BAnd some people are like, do you need to send to both?
Speaker BAbsolutely not.
Speaker BBecause the same journalist is going to go from one to the other so that they know that they've covered all of the news.
Speaker B95% of the press releases are covered by that.
Speaker AAll right, what is like press release marketing?
Speaker AIs that what you just said?
Speaker ABecause I know about press releases, I know about the whole thing of sending them off to PR Newswire, sending it off to journalists, if you think you can actually get to the journalist.
Speaker ABut what specifically is press release marketing?
Speaker BSo press release marketing is the whole thing.
Speaker BSo there are people that will send out their release, they'll get some earned media and that's it.
Speaker BThey don't take the link and share it on social media.
Speaker BThey don't put that article on their website, they don't put it in their newsletters and share it with customers.
Speaker BThey don't put it on their landing pages.
Speaker BAnd these are just all places.
Speaker BThey don't put it in a brag book.
Speaker BAnd so it's taking that earned media and letting it bring new customers and leads in, but also taking that earned media and getting it in front of your leads and getting it in front of your customers, putting on your website, building this asset of a brand.
Speaker BWe work with a lot of startups and the one thing I'll say is a lot of startups go really strong with primary and they just drive a lot of PR over a six month period and then they stop and they, they've usually established 12 to 20 articles at that point and then they start the ad spend and they don't need it anymore.
Speaker BThey've got this asset that they've created and they put the logos on their website, they've got the articles that they put on their, their website, their blogs, their newsroom.
Speaker BThey, they put it right in front of their customers and they know that now they have something that gives them an edge, that improves conversions and really shows that, hey, you don't know this company, but I've just established that they're credible.
Speaker BYou don't have to worry that they're like a fly by night place.
Speaker BYou feel comfortable pulling out your credit card and spending money with them.
Speaker BThey know the value of earned media and also they get articles written about them where a lot of small businesses don't.
Speaker BA lot of small businesses can do the same amount of press releases.
Speaker BMaybe not in the same time period, but maybe over two years.
Speaker BThey do 15 releases, but they don't get the amount of pickup that the startup does.
Speaker BAnd why?
Speaker BIt's because startups are very good about telling their journey, their story.
Speaker BIf you watch Shark Tank, the one of the first things they do is they come on and they tell you this story.
Speaker BSometimes it's them being vulnerable.
Speaker BThey lost their job and they had this hobby and they were wondering if I could turn it into a career or they lost a spouse or a father or just something could be a health thing.
Speaker BThere's, it's usually them being vulnerable, but sharing something that's just very authentic with them.
Speaker BAnd the reason they all do that is it immediately humanizes them.
Speaker BIt gives a human interest element that creates this immediate empathy.
Speaker BThe truth is we don't care about corporations, we don't care about Microsoft or Google, but we care about the people behind it and the culture that's created and projected.
Speaker BAnd with small businesses, being able to immediately tell your story and get people to care about you is a secret weapon.
Speaker BEverybody, even if they don't get funding on Shark Tank, they get an enormous amount of sales and the people will open their browser, go and buy that product.
Speaker BThey don't open another window and say, can I get something similar on Amazon or some other place.
Speaker BThey're not price shopping.
Speaker BThey want to support this person because they are invested and they feel for them.
Speaker BAnd that's something that, that startups are really good at doing and something that small businesses aren't.
Speaker BI've had small businesses I work with who, who have.
Speaker BIt's almost like the reverse of an imposter syndrome where they want to appear as super corporate and that they aren't vulnerable and that there aren't humans at that business.
Speaker BThey want to just appear larger than they are.
Speaker BThey're like, I don't want to be the media contact because I'm also the president of the company, but really the company's just me.
Speaker BSo let's make up someone's name for the media contact.
Speaker BAnd I'm just like, you don't have to.
Speaker BJournalists have nothing against small businesses.
Speaker BActually, the smaller you are is an advantage.
Speaker BJournalists do not get accolades from their audience.
Speaker BAnd that's who they're writing for is, you know, they have to decide, is this press release going to result in an article that's going to highly entertain or highly educate my audience?
Speaker BBecause if it doesn't, I don't want to write it.
Speaker BAnd by getting through all of that and really understanding what they're looking for and appealing to them, you're going to make it easier for them to choose you.
Speaker BAnd one of the things is telling your story as well as your unique selling proposition.
Speaker BThat's another thing that startups know very well.
Speaker BThey can tell you in one sentence who they are and why they're different than every other company that exists in that marketplace because they have carved out something that's distinct.
Speaker BAnd again, a lot of small businesses, they don't do that.
Speaker BI've had a lot of people just say, oh, we're just like a commodity business.
Speaker BThere's like a couple hundred of us scattered across the US And I'm just like, you really should have a unique edge, something you do different than everybody else.
Speaker BAnd one of them said, no.
Speaker BThe only thing I can think of is we do really good onboarding.
Speaker BWe have 500 hours of tutorials and things that we don't expect people to watch.
Speaker BBut every time someone gets in a corner, they're like, how do I figure this out?
Speaker BWe've got a video for it.
Speaker BAnd I'm just like, that's a unique selling proposition.
Speaker BNobody else in the marketplace has it.
Speaker BAnd they go, no, we've been doing this for seven years.
Speaker BIt would take them 10 years probably to compete.
Speaker BThe library of resources and tools we have, I'm like, do you share this with people before they buy?
Speaker BNo, we just reveal it to them after the sale.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, you're losing a lot of sales because there's people who are looking at you and looking at someone else.
Speaker BAnd I don't know, it could be how far you are from them or the color of your website that they ultimately decide with the other person.
Speaker BBut if you let them know that you have this, this incredible onboarding library of videos that they can always turn to when they're stuck, that, that, that's a huge advantage.
Speaker BAnd startups do really well because they know what that is and a lot of small businesses don't.
Speaker BAnd I also talked about Journalists having a story.
Speaker BJournalists like to write in a story arc and a lot of startups know that.
Speaker BAnd so they come prepared with things.
Speaker BWhen they do a product launch press release they're not doing, here's a product, here's a list of features, and here's a page to learn more and buy.
Speaker BThat is what most small businesses send to E Releases.
Speaker BBut a startup will put a use case study in there, hey, here's this company.
Speaker BThey were losing money because they couldn't get their logistics cost under control.
Speaker BThey used our logistics software solution and at the end of it they achieved a profitability of 13%.
Speaker BAnd the fact is that 47% of people in our industry fell in the first five years, often because they don't get these things under control.
Speaker BAnd we have the solution.
Speaker BAnd then here's a quote by that customer talking about how easy it was to use and how it empowered them and made them feel great.
Speaker BThat's a story arc that a journalist can write an article about.
Speaker BJournalists.
Speaker BI can't recall a product article where a journalist says here's a product and here's some features and that's it.
Speaker BBut here's a product, here's a company that used it, the result that they achieved, here's a quote by them and here's some features.
Speaker BThat is a more rounded article and it's what we see.
Speaker BAnd I think a lot of people, when they approach press releases, they write it from, we want to sell this product, let's put down some features and that's it.
Speaker BBut what you have to realize is you got to help the journalists do their job of determining is this going to be entertaining enough or educational enough for their audience.
Speaker BAnd the great thing is you can always go back into the release, sort of put some of that stuff in there.
Speaker BAnd that's really important and probably why a lot of people feel that press releases don't work.
Speaker BAnd the truth is probably 98% of press releases probably don't result in any earned media.
Speaker BBut despite that, there are probably several types of releases that do get picked up again and again.
Speaker BAnd I do education and that's a big thing at E Releases for me is to try to educate my customers to do these more strategic types of releases that matter and get results.
Speaker BAnd I have a free masterclass.
Speaker BIt's less than an hour long video that goes through the types of strategic releases that are meaningful and work.
Speaker BAnd if anybody listens to this, wants to check it out, it's@ereleases.com Plan Like I said, I designed it to be something that people could watch and listen to.
Speaker BI sign up for these courses and I realize it's 30 hours of videos.
Speaker BI never finish it.
Speaker BSo this is an hour commitment.
Speaker BAnd I guarantee if you go and do that, you will brainstorm at least half a dozen good strategic ideas that your business could do.
Speaker BSo you're not doing the.
Speaker BThe product launch release that is just features.
Speaker BYou're not doing a new hire for some associate HR person that no one cares about.
Speaker BWe all love her.
Speaker BBut let's be honest, outside of the on the move section in your local paper and maybe a trade publication, no one's going to write an article about them.
Speaker BTake your cash and spend it wisely.
Speaker BAnd don't pay to go on a wire with a message that's not going to resonate and be newsworthy enough.
Speaker BAnd the types of strategic releases that I have are the ones that are like, where you talk about your journey, you talk about your usp, and you inject data into your release.
Speaker BIt doesn't have to be your data, publicly available data, like the failure rate in your industry in the first five years, that can really show the stakes of why your product is important.
Speaker BBut you can also produce your own data.
Speaker BAnd that is the one press release I always tell people, if you're looking for a winner, it's going to take a little bit of work, but it will be a winner.
Speaker BIs to do a survey or study in your industry and you're going to ask a few questions, like 12 or 16.
Speaker BI like four questions per page in SurveyMonkey.
Speaker BAsk things that are really trending right now, but also like things that if you were at a conference or a trade show, you'd ask a colleague, have you really noticed lately that Everybody's like taking 90 days to pay despite it being net 30?
Speaker BLike, yeah, and it seems like the money's just drying up.
Speaker BThat could be an indicator of something.
Speaker BAnd if you get a survey of several people that agree with, that's a really strong leading indicator.
Speaker BSo ask meaningful questions.
Speaker BTake that link.
Speaker BAnd you do not need a Rolodex of your industry.
Speaker BJust reach out to a small or independent trade association in your industry.
Speaker BStay away from the big ones.
Speaker BThey get all the media attention, the small and independent ones don't.
Speaker BAnd they exist in every industry.
Speaker BI had PR professional tell me in a podcast, this wouldn't work in our industry because there's only Public Relations Society of America.
Speaker BAnd I looked her in the eye and I said, There's 470 other trade associations for PR firms in the United States.
Speaker BAnd she didn't know it.
Speaker BAnd the truth is it's like that in every industry because these smaller associations get no media attention.
Speaker BA lot of them aren't going to be relevant because they're very esoteric New England PR firms or Italian American founded PR firms.
Speaker BBut there's a lot of them that are just like Public Relations Society of America where it's like PR firms of a hundred employees or less.
Speaker BThat's most of the industry.
Speaker BAnd so you just find one that you feel sense you in the industry and has like at least 500 members in the association and approach them and say, hey, could you take this link, send it to your members, I'll put you in a press release I'll be issuing over a wire.
Speaker BAnd they will say, whoa, we can get a little media attention.
Speaker BWe never get that.
Speaker BSo they'll see it as a win, win.
Speaker BAnd about two thirds of the time the first person you ask will say yes.
Speaker BAnd I think only once have we ever had to go to a third association.
Speaker BBut they will, they often will say yes and they'll send it out.
Speaker BYou get the results.
Speaker BThe press release is only going to focus on one or two of those questions.
Speaker BSo you're going to look at the results and say what's most surprising in the survey, what's the big aha moment?
Speaker BAnd then make that the, the focus of the press release and tell a story, provide some analysis, a quote by you of why you felt the, the results turned out this way.
Speaker BAnd then when you put together that press release and send it to the media, it usually results in 8 to 14 articles every single time.
Speaker BThe least we've ever had is four.
Speaker BAnd it was for the biometrics industry, which is very small.
Speaker BAnd so there probably was just less people interested in writing about it because there's less trade publications in that space.
Speaker BAgain, it, it's a, you've just created a lot of authority in the marketplace.
Speaker BYou've gotten all of these articles, you can then take those links and share them with people and create this huge asset that really, you know, improves conversions, brings you new customers, brings you people who are looking for exactly what you sell and you are elevated as an industry leader, a thought leader in the space and all by just doing a little bit of work.
Speaker AAnd so my follow up question with that is, how do you convince maybe the PR person trying to convince the marketer or the marketer trying to convince the boss how to do this and how Many press releases should they write?
Speaker ABecause I know some bosses are like, we want to wrap price press release every week.
Speaker AAnd even I was like, that's not possible.
Speaker AAnd you should really not do that.
Speaker BSo I've had some clients do monthly and it's because they're, they've got three or four products out and they've got lots of little milestones that they're doing and that's completely fine.
Speaker BBut for most small businesses, it's like, you're going to have to buckle down to be able to do every other month.
Speaker BAnd maybe it works out to be once a quarter.
Speaker BI think that it has to be a natural fit.
Speaker BDon't do a press release for the sake of doing a press release.
Speaker BDon't do it because you're on a schedule.
Speaker BDo it because you have done the research, you've got a milestone or you've got something actionable and newsworthy that you're getting out.
Speaker BAnd then try it.
Speaker BI always tell people, six to eight releases is a PR campaign.
Speaker BAnd in the same way that I wouldn't judge Google on 30 clicks, and whether those 30 clicks convert or not, I'll stop advertising on Google.
Speaker BI wouldn't judge a single press release.
Speaker BI would do a proper PR campaign of six to eight different strategic releases.
Speaker BI've had people who try to just do the same release over and over with a different headline and it never worked.
Speaker BAnd I'm just like.
Speaker BAnd they're like, I did six releases.
Speaker BThey're like, no, you did the same release six times with a different headline.
Speaker BYou really have to try different strategic approaches.
Speaker BAnd I think that Masterclass is a great place to start because every one of those ideas are ones that when my customers do those, they have better wins than losses.
Speaker BAnd with a failure rate as high as it is in the PR press release world, you really should be sticking to what people respond to and what's working.
Speaker BAnd so I think that's a great place for someone to start.
Speaker AAnd so someone's listening to this and they're wondering, where else can they find you online besides what you just shared with us?
Speaker BMy social media is on the lower right of my website, ereleases.com Facebook and Instagram and all that good stuff.
Speaker BIt's my personal LinkedIn.
Speaker BThat's a great place to reach out to me personally.
Speaker BIf you have any questions or you just want to talk to someone or you've written something and you'd like us to take a look at it, feel free to just email or chat or or call the number on the website.
Speaker BWe have no salespeople, there's no commissions.
Speaker BAnd everybody is empowered to say, I don't think you're a good candidate.
Speaker BBecause the last thing we want to do is take a small business's money when we don't feel like it's going to work for you.
Speaker BAnd we really are about telling people what is working in the hopes that they're doing better and trying to give them a leg up and an advantage.
Speaker BWhen you send that release over to us to look at, we'll try to give you actionable improvements, tell you where it's not working, and try to give you some ideas of how to make it even better.
Speaker AAll right, any final thoughts for listeners?
Speaker BI think the biggest thing is that a lot of people feel like they're too small to matter when it comes to pr.
Speaker BAnd what you have to realize is journalists don't get accolades for covering Google and Microsoft, but when they pull out a tool or a company that's doing something new in a new, fresh space, they do get people saying, I really appreciate that.
Speaker BI'd never heard of them before.
Speaker BAnd often it's because they're small, they're new, they're a mom and pop business.
Speaker BThey could even be a side business that someone has.
Speaker BAnd people feel like, oh, I have to wait until I'm bigger to do pr.
Speaker BAnd really being small and unknown is an advantage because journalists love to put the spotlight on new companies that haven't been covered and that makes you really a target for getting media coverage.
Speaker AAll right, thank you, Mickey, for joining Digital Coffee Marketing Brew and sharing your knowledge on press release marketing and PR in general.
Speaker BYou're welcome and thank you for listening.
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Speaker AAll right, guys, stay safe, get to understanding your PR and try out that press release marketing and do better PR as well because it really does help.
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